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Issue date: 8-21-2010

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u8-27-2010 USSVI National Elections. Thanks to the 3,161 members who voted in this important election. Your vote in support of the candidates of your choice is appreciated.

The election was clean and mostly trouble free, although there were some technical glitches that needed to be fixed, and a few incompatibilities due to the vast array of internet browsers in the marketplace.

There were also some problems that arose due to a technical delay in getting American Submariner ballot issue 'on the street', which impacted on the already set travel arrangement of the election master, and the closure of the voting site a day early due to the travel requirements of the key administrator to the voting tool.

As National Commander, I take full responsibility for the problems that occurred. I sincerely regret that these issues developed and have taken steps to identify all the problem areas and find solutions for the next election cycle.

All of those involved coped with the evolving circumstances as best we could with the alternatives available to us.

The election results were not impacted, however, as the election vote margins were of such size that any last minute voting would not have changed any of the outcomes.

As mentioned above, the Natl Secretary is composing a 'lessons learned' report on this election so that the problem areas can be addressed prior to the next election cycle. Pat Housholder

 

(About 23% of Bremerton base eligible members voted.  Newly elected national officers will be announced at the annual convention on Sat, Sep4)

u8-20-2010  South Sound Base Welcomes Home Seattle Base Member Active Duty Shipmate MCC(SS) Dave Gordon from Afghanistan

Our September meeting on the 9th will be one you do not want to miss. Invitations will be sent to other subvet bases. Chief Dave Gordon (SS) has returned from his tour in the big sand box. He will be presenting a program of his year in Afghanistan. Also the meeting will be a celebration of South Sound Base 8th Anniversary. We will be having a dinner …. An ‚Anniversary & Welcome Home‛ spaghetti feed. More on the link below

http://www.ussvi.org/BaseNewsletters/SSB_Newsletter.pdf

(My wife and I are planning to attend.  If you desire, e-mail me and I will keep a head count to send to South Sound Base.)

u8-20-2010 Help Wanted - Committee members for a short term assignment on the Scholarship Program Review Committee Members will review current policies and make recommendations for ways to include a wider selection of applicants.  The term of service is expected to be from September to December.  Respond to Base Commander Dave Niemy.

David Niemy
Commander
USSVI Bremerton Base
ssbnswo@aol.com

 

u8-19-2010 Base Ways & Means Committee to Meet  Vice Commander and Way & Means Committee Chair Jim DeMott announced a meeting will be held this Monday , August 23, at 1500 at the FRA.  Any and all interested may attend.

 

u8-16-2010 Western Region Director Sends His Regards

 

Subject: Summer Actives for Jim and Jean

 

Gents/Ladies; Just wanted to get out a note on Jean and my activities with regard to USSVI this summer. We have had a great time visiting with Bases and attending Base activities this summer and I want to thank all of the Bases we visited for their great hospitality.

We left our home in Arizona with our 5th wheel about the first of May and with an overnight stop at Nellis AFB and Fallon AFB, we arrived at Travis AFB where we met up with our friends, George and Barbara Petershagen, where we camped for about 3 weeks. During our stay, we accompanied George and Barbara (George being WD5 Commander) to a Mare Island Base meeting. We also attended a Holland Base meeting while in the area. 

While at Travis we also attended the Pampanito Dedication with George and Barbara. This was a great ceremony put together by Lenny Steffanelli and his team to numerous to mention. Thanks, Guys and Gals for all your hard work. Lenny, an awesome job getting this all put together. This will be a life lasting memorial to all these great boats of WWII.

Jean and said our “See you later” to George and Barbara, we so enjoy this great friendship and each day we get to spend with you guys, and left for Pasco WA.

While in Pasco WA, we attended a breakfast meeting with Steve Wilson, Base Commander of Inland Empire Base, and members of his Base. My thanks for a great time and the information we shared. I look forward to another visit.

We left Pasco and continued on to Coeur d Alene ID and spent time with Jerry and Kathy Parker, WD3 Commander. Jerry and Kathy held a picnic for Farragut Base. We enjoyed great food and a great time of sharing with Farragut Base. My thanks.

After leaving Coeur d Alene we traveled to NW Washington where we spent some time at the Whidbey NAS RV park out on the ocean, George and Barbara were able to join us again. While we were there we were honored to meet with a motorcycle club made up of Submarine Veterans, also met a submarine Veteran and his family who were camped next to us. We were able to talk with them about the benefits of joining USSVI and also pass out apps.

Leaving Whidbey, we went to Ft Lewis WA, and met with John Mansfield, WD4 Commander. It was great spending some time with John. While there, Jean, John and I attended a meeting with John Clear and The Olympic Penninsula Base. What a fantastic start this new Base has gotten off on. My congratulations and gratitude for a great meeting and wonderful hospitally. We also attended the Bremerton Base Picnic, new officers induction and Holland Club induction. We hade a great time and a great visit, looking forward to future visits. We also attended the Seattle Base Meeting where we were able to re-connect with some old friends and make new ones.

After Seattle we packed up and headed home to get ready for the National convention. As I reflect on this trip, I consider Jean and I so fortunate to be able to get around to the different areas in our Region and really have enjoyed meeting with all of you. We so cherish our friendship with George and Barbara, time spent with John Mansfield and also Jerry and Kathy Parker, I look forward to spending more time with all of you. Our thanks to you for making this trip so enjoyable.

At the end, please remember that the elections will conclude in 8 days if you have not voted PLEASE do. I would appreciate your support but the most important thing is that you vote for a candidate of your choice. Again our thanks for a great trip.

 

Jim n Jean

 

 

u7-31-2010  USSVI Bremerton Base Takes on Deterrent Park Brick Marketing and Sales (Deterrent Park Link)

The submarine veterans of the USSVI Bremerton Base are responsible for the marketing and sale of the Deterrent Park bricks. All profits realized after the engraving and installing the bricks will go to support our efforts  “To perpetuate the memory of our shipmates who gave their lives in the pursuit of their duties while serving their country.”

To date, over 2100 bricks have be purchased, engraved and installed in the Woodrow Wilson’s full scale model missile deck.  About 3200 bricks are awaiting your purchase. Look here for a locator file (be patient, 1.6 MB file) and review those that have purchased bricks, those who have been recognized or memorialized on the engravings and the location of individual bricks.  Use “Find” function of your pdf reader to search out names, words etc.

As you will note, many have recognized or memorialized shipmates, family or those who have gone before to ensure our freedom as those on active duty are doing today.

 

Please take a look and consider a purchase order.    Click here for brick application form

 

u7-2-2010 Invitation to Golf in the Tri-Cities Sun

Invitation to Golf in the Tri-Cities Sun.  Inland Empire Base has invited us to join them for a round of golf and a picnic on Friday September 3rd.
The event will be at Columbia Point Golf Course and fee plus cart is: $40.00 (that is down from the norm of $56.00).  Tee time is 0730.  The picnic will be at Columbia Point park on the Columbia River which is right next to the golf course.  They have that from 11:00 to dark.......... there are many fine motels right near the area.  They are working on getting reduced rates for anyone that comes from out of the area.
 

David Niemy
Commander

USSVI Bremerton Base
ssbnswo@aol.com

 

u8-12-2010 USSVI OFFICIAL BUSINESS: SubVet News - #2010-030

 

Date: 8/12/2010
To: Distribution List

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NEWS-01: Ever wonder why the USSVI websites...
Submitted by: Tim VeArd on 8/7/2010
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Why the USSVI website:

* requires Session Cookies (or cookies for Firefox an other browsers)
* allows no Back Door calls to selected pages on the website

The conditions above usually send you to an "error" page that explains what you may need to do to prevent seeing this error page.

COOKIES: Over the years, cookies have gotten a bad reputation, that is often undeserved.  Many websites use them responsibly to make your visiting experience better.  But, the USSVI family of websites DO NOT use real cookies.  I only use what is called "Session Variables" (which are sometimes also called "Session Cookies".  Unlike real cookies, Session Variables DO NOT write information to either your computer or my servers.  They simply "temporarily" store a choice you made on one page and pass it to the next page, so that I can lookup what you want to see in the national database.  Once the next page is displayed, the Session Cookie normally "dies" unless I know you might drill down to yet another page. 

Microsoft's Internet Explorers (all versions from IE-4 to IE-8), allow you to block real cookies but allow you to enable using Session Variables (or Session Cookies).  Firefox and other browsers don't seem to make a distinction between Session Cookies and real cookies.  So, for these browsers you need to allow them for the sites that need them, like USSVI.  Here's how for Firefox (other browser probably a similar procedure):

Click on Tools
Click on Options
Click on the Privacy Tab
On the right side of "Accept Cookies from Sites", click the EXCEPTIONS button Enter "
www.ussvi.org" and then close

The error page you see will also explain all of this and also show examples of what steps to take to prevent seeing this screen in the future.

Also note, that Session Cookies have a limited life.  They "time out" after awhile.  If you walk away from your computer (especially if you logged in using your password), the Session Cookies clear themself (they die in memory, never written to any disk).  Then when you try to go another page, you will see this error screen again.

NO BACK DOOR CALLS ALLOWED:  First, I need to explain what a back door call is.  It generally means you "bookmarked" a page on a website that you want to come "directly" back to.  Or, it might be a specific page you want a friend to see, so you send them a link like below:

https://www.ussvi.org/AmericanSubmariner.asp

If you click on the link above, you'll see an error screen that briefly explains why this direct call is not allowed.  It will explain that you need to call the main USSVI website's primary URL (
www.ussvi.org) and see the home page first.  If you want a friend to see a specific page, you should give them directions for what button to click after that.

Why am I forced to do this?  And, yes I am very aware that many other websites don't require this.  And, yes, I'll be the first to admit that is a pain in the butt for lots of us.  This simple answer is ... to prevent hackers from gaining unauthorized access to our national database.

In contrast to the "back door", when you enter the USSVI using the primary URL (
www.ussvi.org), you are coming thought the "front door".  Before you can see the HOME page, the "front door" detects in you are a hacker using techniques that I won't elaborate on here.  I belong to a consulting network of programmers, many of whom are much smarter than me.  We share techniques and warn each other of pending attacks.  For example, a few years ago, the White House's website and a well known submarine website, that were driven by a database, were hacked and shut down by an insidious hack known as the "SQL Injection attack".  I was able to immediately defend against it when friends shared their code with me, by adding it to USSVI's "front door".  Therefore, any page on the USSVI site that is connected to the national database, cannot be directly accessed.  You must come through the front door first, so I can protect us from attackers.

There are two general types of attackers.  One is a person trying to gain access by penetrating the site.  The other is a program that a hacker wrote that hits your site thousands of times a second, probing for holes in your security.  Therefore another function of the "front door" is to detect an automated attack and send the attacker what he expects to see if there is nothing of value to hack.  So, the "front door" handles both types, if it can.  You see an error screen.  Hackers see something else that I won't describe here.

Another benefit for having a "front door" is search engines like Google offer webmasters snippets of code that we can add to a "front door" that helps them develop a trend pattern that can improve our ranking when someone requests info about subs.  It is paying off and USSVI has benefited from this.

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NEWS-02: Reflecting on our USSVI Creed...
Submitted by: Pat Householder on 8/7/2010
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Occasionally is it worthwhile to review and reflect on the purposes of USSVI.  I hope you will take the time to read it over and reflect on what it means to us all.

Our organization's purpose is defined in our Constitution "to perpetuate the memory of our shipmates who gave their lives in the pursuit of their duties while serving their country. That their dedication, deeds and supreme sacrifice be a constant source of motivation toward greater accomplishments. Pledge loyalty and patriotism to the United States of America and its Constitution.

In addition to perpetuating the memory of departed shipmates, we shall provide a way for all Submariners to gather for the mutual benefit and enjoyment.  Our common heritage as Submariners shall be strengthened by camaraderie.  We support a strong U.S. Submarine Force.

The organization will engage in various projects and deeds that will bring about the perpetual remembrance of those shipmates who have given the supreme sacrifice. The organization will also endeavor to educate all third parties it comes in contact with about the services our submarine brothers performed and how their sacrifices made possible the freedom and lifestyle we enjoy today."

The above describes the mission and purpose of USSVI at all levels.

Questions, concerns or comments?  Please give me a shout back at
nc@ussvi.org

Fraternally,

Patrick Householder
Natl Commander

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NEWS-03: U.S. Navy to help restore USS Batfish
Submitted by: Pat Householder on 8/7/2010
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U.S. Navy Reserve to help restore USS Batfish

Muskogee (OK) Phoenix Newspaper:  On Aug. 28, the Oklahoma Naval Reserve will be out to help paint the USS Batfish. Visitors are welcome, but during this day the submarine will be closed to the public. The museum and grounds will remain open.

To reach the USS Batfish Submarine and Military Museum, take Muskogee Turnpike to Exit 33, turn east, then turn north at the Batfish sign.

The Naval Reserve will host a car wash and cook-out for donations as well as have a squadron gear shop open to help raise funds for the day’s activities. Information: Rick Dennis at 682-6294.

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NEWS-04: The U.S. Navy And Internal Rot
Submitted by: Strategy Page on 8/8/2010
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by James Dunnigan, August 2, 2010

The U.S. Navy has noted a decline in the readiness (for operations, and combat) of its ships over the past decade, and finally conducted an intense inspection of the situation. What was found were several trends, all of them bad, that resulted in it being much more difficult, and often impossible, to maintain ships as they had been in the past. The biggest problem was leadership at the top, which allowed this to happen. The leadership angle was not mentioned in any of the recent studies, but it is at the heart of all the other problems.
 
Getting down into the details, the most obvious problem is that the ships are getting older, and so is their equipment, especially the electronics. As stuff gets older, it becomes more difficult to get spare parts, or to get them on a timely basis. This is particularly true with Cold War era electronics, which have since been replaced, in the commercial market,  by several generations of new (cheaper and more efficient and reliable) gear. The navy chose to try and maintain the older systems. It has not been working at the ship level. Worse yet, the procurement bureaucracy has not kept up with the times (it's a real hassle to order anything), and sailors often give up on trying to get spares, especially when their officers can't make the system work either. All this was made still worse by navy attempts to "streamline" things resulted in smaller spare parts budgets for ships (sometimes based on false belief in a faster spares delivery system that did not exist). Another streamlining disaster was a push for "minimum manning" (only having as many sailors on board as you actually needed). The analysis done to find the optimal crew levels ignored (or simply missed) a lot of manpower intensive jobs that led to many more ships failing their readiness inspections.
 
The senior admirals now have all this staring them in the face. The question is, can they fix what their predecessors screwed up? The fixes are expensive, and there is still a lot of pressure in the navy to spend lots of money to replace aging ships. To fix the current readiness problems means you will not be able to afford some  new ships. The fix is replacing older equipment in current ships, with new, more reliable and easier to maintain systems. Most of the problems are on surface ships (the "surface combatants" like frigates, destroyers and cruisers). Most admirals see the carriers and nuclear ships as the key naval vessels. Should money be shifted from subs and carriers to fix the surface combatants, and similar problems aboard carriers and subs? The navy budget is shrinking, and the answers to these questions will be pretty obvious over the next few years. There are definitely two factions in the navy on this subject, and keeping score is as simple as counting new ships built, and the number of existing ships failing their readiness inspections.

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htmurph/20100713.aspx

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NEWS-05: Upcoming Boat Reunions
Submitted by: T. Michael Bircumshaw on 8/9/2010
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Shipmates,
A couple more Reunions that did not make it into the American Submariner Inbox are coming up in October of this year.  Please remember that getting thme in the calendar does not get them into the American Submariner.  Reunion coordinators must send their info to
SubVetsEditor@yahoo.com.
Best,
Michael
T M Bircumshaw Editor American Submariner

 4-8 October  2010 USS CAPITAINE SS-336 Las Vegas NV  Thomas H. Morris  23 Timm Street Sheridan, WY 82801-8604  307- 672- 6593  (775) 751-9435 (fax)
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21-24 October 2010  USS CLAMAGORE SS-343  Branson, MO  Welks Resort Hotel 800-268-4014 “Mention Clamagore”  Sam Bass 714-636-7238 
geobass@earthlink.net  Wayne Owens 410-944-1806

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NEWS-06: Why the USS SCORPION (SSN-589) Was Lost on 22 May 1968
Submitted by: James A Fox on 8/12/2010
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6 August 2010
 
From: B. Rule, 3931 Brookfield Ave, Louisville, KY 40207-2001 
To: VADM David J. Dorsett, Director of Naval Intelligence, Office of Naval Intelligence,
  4251 Suitland Road, Washington, DC 20395-5720
 
Subj: Why the USS SCORPION (SSN-589) Was Lost on 22 May 1968
 
Ref: (a) Originator’s ltr of 14 Mar 2009
  (b) SCORPION SAG Report: "EVALUATION OF DATA AND ARTIFACTS
  RELATED TO THE USS SCORPION (SSN-589) (U)" of 29 June 1970,
  prepared for presentation to the CNO SCORPION Technical Advisory Group by
  the Structural Analysis Group: Peter Palermo, CAPT Harry Jackson, Robert
  Price, et al.
  (c) Originator’s ltr of 28 Oct 2009
 
Encl: (1) Enclosure (1) to Originator’s ltr of 14 March 2009
 
ASSESSMENT
 
The USS SCORPION was lost because hydrogen produced by the 65-ton, 126-cell TLX-53-A main storage battery exploded in two-stages one-half second apart at 18:20:44Z on 22 May 1968. These events, which did not breach the pressure-hull, prevented the crew from maintaining depth-control. As discussed by reference (a), the SCORPION pressure-hull collapsed at 18:42:34Z at a depth of 1530-feet. Noted times are actual event times on board SCORPION.
 
This assessment is NOT the generic attribution of the loss of a submarine to a battery-explosion advanced as a default explanation in the absence of any more likely construct. This assessment is based on (1), the results of examination and microscopic, spectrographic and X-ray diffraction analyses of recovered SCORPION battery material that confirm an explosion occurred, and (2), the July 2008 reanalysis of the SCORPION “precursor” acoustic signals that identified these signals as explosions contained within the SCORPION pressure-hull. Collectively, these findings indicate battery explosions were the initiating events responsible for the loss of SCORPION on 22 May 1968.
 
DISCUSSIONS: EXAMINATION AND METALLURGICAL ANALYSIS OF A RECOVERED SCORPION BATTERY COMPONENT
 
Section 7.1.3, page 7.2 of reference (b) states: (quote) ....the general battery damage is violent. The high velocity intrusion of pieces of the flash arrestor into both inside and outside surfaces of the retrieved plastisol cover attest to violence in the battery well. The damage to the terminal battery post coupled with the violent tearing of the plastisol covers indicates the possibility of a battery explosion. While it is possible that this damage could have been an after-effect of hull implosion, the SAG (Structural Analysis Group) feels that the intrusion of particles into the plastisol cover would have been much less severe had water been in the battery well at the time. (end quote)
 
Section 5.3.6, page 5.17 of reference (b) states: (quote) The battery installed in SCORPION was a TLX-53-A, manufactured by Gould-National Battery, Inc. Battery cell debris is in evidence over the entire debris field. Table 5-2, page 5.38 provides a list of the battery debris identified by the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard analysis team. (end quote) Comment: Table 5-2 notes damage from heat and melting. The presence of melting eliminates the possibility that such damage occurred as a result of pressure-hull collapse (implosion) because analysis of acoustic data discussed by Section IV of reference (c), confirms SCORPION was fully-flooded within 0.112-seconds of pressure-hull and bulkhead collapse; hence, the melting damage (and the battery explosion) had to have occurred within the still-intact SCORPION pressure-hull.
 
In consonance with this conclusion, Section 5.3.6, page 5.17 of reference (b) also states: (quote) the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard Analysis Group reports that the available evidence indicates the battery probably exploded at some time before flooding of the battery well occurred. Review of Figure 5-13 indicates that the threads on the terminal posts were sheared off and there are no cover seal nuts remaining. This indicates that an explosion took place on the inside of the cells. The covers were completely blown off. Had the pressure been applied on the outside of the covers, the cover support flange on the terminal posts would have held pieces of the covers and it is expected that the cover seal nuts would have remained in place in at least some instances. ( end quote)
 
Further, Section 5.3.6c, page 5.18 of reference (b) states: (quote) The (battery cover) sample from SCORPION had been violently, but locally, torn, particularly at the location of the bus connection bolts and nuts. The deformation in this region appears to have started on the inside, or battery side of the cover. (end quote)
 
And finally, Section 5.3.6e, page 5.18 of reference (b) states: (quote) Some 20 equally small (nearly sub-visible) fragments of material were imbedded at high velocity in both the inside and outside of the sample. The trajectories of the fragments were essentially random, ranging from grazing to vertical incidence. Microscopic, spectrographic and X-ray

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VET-01: TRICARE Sets Gray Area Retiree Premiums
Submitted by: John P. Dudas on 8/10/2010
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Week of August 09, 2010

Last year, Congress approved the creation of the TRICARE Reserve Retired program, a premium-paid TRICARE Standard coverage plan for "gray area" Reserve retirees. The program is planned to start in October. The Premium rates were unveiled on Aug. 6. The premiums -- $388.31 per month for single coverage and $976.41 a month for family coverage -- have been set high enough to cover the full cost of the program because the benefit is not subsidized by the government.


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VET-02: VA Ordered to Release Agent Orange Rule
Submitted by: John P. Dudas on 8/10/2010
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Week of August 09, 2010

A coalition of veterans' service organizations won their case to force the VA to issue a final regulation authorizing payment of claims for ischemic heart disease, Parkinson's disease, or B-cell leukemia for any veteran who stepped foot in Vietnam during the war, or their survivors. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit instructed VA to issue the rule by Sept. 1, 2010

 

uSoup Down: Fri, Aug 27, 1130,  Moondogs Too, 714 Bay Street, Port Orchard


Letter for Requesting Gift Certificate from Restaurants

Check out this link for latest images of  events. http://www.ussvi.org/base/Bremerton.asp  Then Click on Meeting Photos

 

Don Bassler

Gertrude Check

Founder & Editor

 

Other News of Interest to Submariners


 

China Hits Bottom, Plants Flag

By Colin Clark, DoD Buzz, 26 August 2010

The People’s Republic of China has joined an elect group of four countries that have taken men as deep as 3,500 meters below the surface of the ocean. And in keeping with Chinese claims to huge amounts of the ocean surface and its depths, the crew planted a flag on the bottom in the South China Sea, much as Russia recently did in Arctic waters.

The story was reported on Chinese TV news and by the official Xinhua news service, making it almost certain that the event had policy repercussions, in addition to the nicely nationalistic side of the submersible crew and the craft’s designer having done something physically and technically challenging.

The flag planting was done with a submersible, not a submarine. Subs are independent and can go pretty much wherever they like. Submersibles, which are usually designed to go deeper and possess grappling arms of some type, usually are deployed from a mother ship and possess limited range. The Chinese submersible, Jiaolong, executed 17 dives in the South China Sea from May 31 to July 18. The deepest dive took them to 3,759 meters.

The flag planting, “highlights (again!) that China has laid claim to the South China Sea,” said Dean Cheng, the top Chinese defense expert at the Heritage Foundation here in Washington.

Islands and reefs in the South China Sea are claimed by China, Taiwan, Vietnam, Malaysia and the Philippines. My personal favorite clump of islands is those known as the Spratlys, where people have died over tiny lumps of coral so small it’s impossible to build permanent structures on them. The Spratlys may lie atop oil and gas deposits and they describe rich fishing areas.

At the end of last month a Defense Ministry spokesman said “China has indisputable sovereignty” of the South China Sea, though he allowed that the PRC would allow ship and aircraft passage “from relevant countries” if they comply with China’s interpretation of international law.

Cheng pointed to the fact that the Jiaolong was manned, saying China’s ability to operate at such depths will have economic and military repercussions as they undertake operations such as deep sea oil drilling and labor to supplement Ch8inese research into oceanography, a key discipline for submarine operations.


USS Shark 1967

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WyQsQi0Lyg


Diesel-Electric Submarines, The U.S. Navy’s Latest Annoyance

By Grace Jean, National Defense Magazine,

The Navy in recent months has had to contend with several provoking episodes at sea – Iranian small boats speeding at its cruisers, destroyers and frigates; Russian bombers flying over its carriers; and Chinese subs shadowing its warships.  Hard-to-detect submarines – such as quiet, diesel-electric boats – are particularly vexing, Navy officials say. They contend that an undersea arms race already has begun in the western Pacific.

Nations there in recent years have begun to acquire stealthy diesel-electric submarines. Some of those nations, say Navy officials, could one day threaten U.S. access to strategic coastal areas of the world or interrupt the flow of commerce around the globe.  Although the Navy has the world’s most technologically advanced fleet – including state-of-the-art nuclear attack submarines – officials acknowledge that these comparatively low-tech diesel-electric boats could give an enemy an asymmetric advantage.

“The beauty about a diesel submarine is that it has the potential to be far quieter than a nuclear submarine,” says Guy Stitt, president of AMI International, a Bremerton, Wash.-based company specializing in naval market analysis. Diesel boats are propelled by batteries when submerged and move through the water by diesel engines when on the surface.  Once they have powered up their batteries, the submarines can sail to the bottom of coastal waters and remain undetected for days. Though they can’t travel long distances or sail very quickly, advancements in technologies, such as air-independent propulsion and fuel cells, have allowed diesel submarines to extend their operational ranges underwater.  But perhaps their best selling point is their relatively inexpensive price tags. The Russians have sold diesel submarines for as little as $200 million and the French have exported their Scorpene submarines for $300 million.

“It is within the scope of many, many countries to be able to afford them. They don’t need a lot of them. They don’t need to sail them very far, and they don’t have to be particularly proficient with them,” says Vice Adm. Samuel Locklear, commander of the Navy’s Third Fleet, which prepares strike groups to deploy to the Pacific and the Middle East.

More than 39 nations possess diesel submarines. One of the latest tallies indicates a total of 377 ships in the world, says Richard Dorn, an analyst at AMI International. And there could be an uptick in the next few years.  With China continuing to increase the size of its navy, a number of neighboring nations also have begun to develop their undersea capabilities.   “There’s a push on in Asia that really seems to be driven by China,” says Stitt. Singapore, Malaysia and Indonesia all have closed deals on diesel submarines, and now Thailand is following suit.

Driving the market in part is Russia, which during the past 18 months has been aggressively selling ships, including its Kilo-class diesels.  “We’ve seen a huge increase in the number of sales that they’re booking for Kilos, primarily motivated by the need for funds to strengthen their second tier shipbuilding groups,” says Stitt. Since the end of the Cold War, Russia has lost many of its secondary shipyard suppliers – the engine, pump and valve manufacturers, piping companies and the like. But Russia is attempting to revitalize those small companies.

“They’re going out and making all these deals to sell submarines and ships and using those funds to reinvigorate the industry, which in turn will also benefit them in building up the Russian fleet,” says Stitt.   Russia has exported 30 Kilos around the globe and 26 are still in active service. It will deliver two more submarines to Algeria by 2010, five to Venezuela by 2020, and six to Indonesia by 2018. China received its 12th and final Kilo last year.  The number of Kilos that are being sold is particularly concerning because many of the submarines are equipped with Klub anti-ship cruise missiles.

Some nations have a desire for regional hegemony and want to strengthen their influence in an area. That’s most definitely the reason for President Hugo Chavez buying subs for Venezuela, says Stitt.   But for other nations, the reasons are less clear. “There’s a wide array of military assets you can buy, so why would you buy a diesel-electric submarine? As far as I know, it’s not to protect your own port,” says Locklear in an interview at Third Fleet headquarters perched atop Point Loma in San Diego.

That China’s submarines are surfacing boldly near U.S. warships is a telltale sign of newer advanced technologies, such as acoustic tiles and cavitation-reducing propellers, that are being employed on the submarines, says Stitt.  China’s new Song-class diesel submarines have tracked U.S. Navy ships operating in the seas near Japan and Taiwan. Last November, after China denied the USS Kitty Hawk’s port call in Hong Kong at the last minute, a Chinese submarine shadowed the carrier as it entered the Taiwan Straits on its return voyage to Yokosuka, Japan. In the late fall of 2006, a Song-class submarine surfaced within torpedo range of the Kitty Hawk off the coast of Okinawa, Japan.

Despite the tensions, those episodes and the topic of submarines did not come up directly in conversations with Chinese officials in January, when the commander of Pacific Command, Adm. Timothy Keating, visited the nation. “We watch them carefully. It’s an area of warfare at which they’re stretching a little bit,” he told reporters during a breakfast meeting in Washington, D.C. “Their numbers of submarines are increasing. The capabilities resident in those submarines are not unimpressive. They’re pretty good – we’re better.”

China’s fleet of nuclear and diesel submarines includes 10 Song class, 12 Kilo class, one Yuan class and 32 Romeo class.

“We know that they are continually expanding their reach in what they view as their own areas of interest, and that their submarine force is vital to expanding that reach,” says Locklear. The proliferation of diesel submarines in the Pacific is one of the major factors behind the Navy’s decision to move six submarines from the Atlantic Fleet to the Pacific Fleet, says Rear Adm. Joseph Walsh, commander of the Pacific Submarine Force. Because more than 140 diesel subs are within reach of critical “choke points” in the area, anti-submarine warfare is Pacific Fleet’s top war-fighting priority, he adds.

The Navy saw its anti-submarine warfare skills diminish after the end of the Cold War. In those days, enemy Soviet nuclear submarines were noisy, and could be detected with passive sonar.  But modern-day diesel submarines are not as easily heard, particularly in regions of the seas where biological life and merchant shipping can camouflage their acoustic signatures. It is there, in the noisy waters of the littorals, where detecting submarines can be a cat-and-mouse game, Navy officials say.

Rear Adm. John Waickwicz, who was the head of the Naval Mine and Anti-Submarine Warfare Command until he retired in January, says the Navy is looking at anti-submarine warfare in new ways. “When you talk about countries that have 30, 40, or 50 submarines, you can’t wait until they’re around you, because they’re going to overwhelm you,” he says. Potential enemies have figured that to defeat the U.S. Navy, they must “go out and buy submarines, and buy mines,” he says. The mine and anti-submarine warfare command is calling for the deployment of a network of sonobuoys over a wide expanse of ocean to detect enemy submarines. But the project has been marred by technological and funding problems. The most significant hitch is that the data collected by the sensors takes too long to analyze, says Waickwicz. “You need to do it in real time to take action on it.”

False alarm rates on many of the fleet’s current detection technologies are too high, Waickwicz adds. That forces commanders to waste resources on non-existent threats. Officials insist that the Navy’s anti-submarine warfare capabilities are the best in the business, but they acknowledge that it will take some time to hone the skills to combat stealthy diesel submarines. Waickwicz says that training has improved in recent years, but some individual units are not adequately prepared for at-sea operations.  For example, some units have demonstrated sonar operator proficiency on simulations that are not sophisticated enough to replicate the real environment, which puts the sailors at a disadvantage when they conduct operations at sea, says Rear Adm. Frank Drennan, the new commander of the Naval Mine and Anti-Submarine Warfare Command.  “The requirements are still the same – they just have to work on them in a challenging environment so that operators are truly proficient when they go to sea,” he says.

Hunting for quiet diesel submarines in the shallow waters of the littorals is akin to trying to identify the sound of a single car engine in the din of a major city, he says.  There are variations in the underwater topography, with sand bars, coral reefs and channels. Different depths of water and changing salinity and temperatures alter how sounds propagate. Marine life and merchant shipping also complicate the search by generating ambient noise.

The only technology that the Navy considers suitable for detecting and tracking diesel submarines is active sonar. It disperses signals out into the water where they bounce off of objects. Those echoes are captured by hydrophones and interpreted by sonar technicians. Contrary to popular belief, sonar is not like radar, which gives complete visibility of “hits” in the air. What sonar technicians see is a screen that is filled with vertical lines representing echoes from objects in the water. Discerning which line is a submarine and which one is a coral reef is a difficult and complex task, sailors say.

The Navy spent 40 years building a training range on the coast of Southern California – one of the most extensive in the world, officials say. Underwater sensors track ships’ locations and record operations during exercises.  Because the water and ocean bottom conditions are representative of many areas around the world, the range is an ideal location for training strike groups in anti-submarine warfare, says Locklear. But the Navy’s training there has been curtailed by ongoing litigation over the harmful effects of active sonar on marine mammals.

Under a federal judge’s ruling, ships were forbidden from using active sonar within 12 nautical miles of shore and had to steer clear of waters between the Santa Catalina and San Clemente islands during a joint training exercise in January for the Abraham Lincoln carrier strike group. Sightings of marine mammals at certain distances also prompted ships to take protective measures, such as powering down sonar or shutting the sensors off completely.

“We’re not able to employ the sonar, given those restrictions, in a realistic manner, and it just makes it real tough to assess whether the fleet is proficient at using the technology,” says Capt. Pete Tomczak, deputy director for training at Third Fleet.  The use of sonar by the Navy has been linked to mass marine mammal strandings on beaches in the Bahamas and the Canary Islands. Pending necropsy results, the death of a northern right whale dolphin that washed up Jan. 29 on the Navy’s San Nicolas Island could be connected to sonar use.

Locklear says the Navy tries to balance its responsibility to protect the environment with its job to prepare sailors for war. He expresses concern that the judge’s ruling, if extrapolated beyond Southern California, could hamper Navy training around the world. “If this becomes precedence setting, I think it will be very difficult for the United States Navy,” he says. “If there was a new technology on the horizon that made this irrelevant, we would be all over it. We just haven’t found it yet.”

With prospects of at-sea training diminishing, not only because of the litigation, but also as a result of rising fuel costs and other budget constraints, the Navy is searching for alternative ways to prepare its sailors for anti-submarine warfare. One option is to rely on simulators, says Waickwicz. But he points out that current simulations in the Navy do not replicate sonar accurately.   “It’s like playing ‘Pong’ in today’s game world,” he says. While the submarine forces have higher fidelity trainers, much of the rest of the fleet – especially surface ships – have sub-par simulations.

“Computer simulations can only go so far. There is still no substitute for at-sea practice against a real submarine,” says Pacific Fleet’s Walsh.  Because the U.S. Navy no longer operates diesel-electric submarines, it invites allied countries that own these boats to participate in exercises at Navy ranges on the east and west coasts. The Swedish Navy’s HMS Gotland collaborated most recently with various Navy commands in San Diego.

“It was very advantageous to have a diesel submarine crew for two years, to see how they thought, how they approached the issues to go against the ships,” says Waickwicz. “It really opened our eyes to diesel submarines and how active sonar is what you have to have in the strike group.”  The experience led to recent changes in the Navy’s anti-submarine warfare doctrine and tactics.


Continuous Active Sonar (Is this "Automatic Detection & Classification"?ed)

Strategy Page, 26 August 2010

A major problem with ASW (Anti-submarine warfare) is that your submarine detection software equipment is turned off most of the time, and when it is used it requires a lot of trained operators and lawyers (to deal with the growing number of lawsuits filed by NGOs seeking to protect sea animals from noise pollution). Ships depend on intelligence, usually from large organizations like the CIA or military intel operations, to alert them that a submarine threat might exist in their area.

For nearly a decade now, research has been underway on a solution in the form of Continuous Active Sonar (CAS). This is a low level sonar signal that operates like radar, providing a continuous flow of data on what might be down there. Current sonars send out a more powerful signal, but at a low rate (one or more a minute). This annoys underwater creatures, and lawyers representing the critters make it difficult for the navy to even train with this equipment. CAS is based on the growing effectiveness of passive sonar (that just listens, and uses an electronic library of sounds to identify enemy ships). CAS makes it possible to identify increasingly quiet submarines, that depend on their stealth to get close enough to fire a torpedo.

The problem with CAS is that it's been a tricky technology to perfect, although recently there have been some promising tests at sea. If CAS could be perfected and deployed, it would give ships round the clock warning of approaching submarines. With a mature CAS technology, it would also be able to detect approaching torpedoes, and deploy underwater decoys. Eventually, when someone gets CAS to work reliably for sailors to use regularly.

 


 

Russia Increases Diesel Submarine Production

United Press International, 20 August 2010

MOSCOW -- While most Western navies have been fielding nuclear-powered submarines since the 1960s, diesel-powered models have after significant upgrades become significant naval vessels.

The U.S. shut down its diesel submarine assembly lines in the 1960s since the U.S. Navy went nuclear, but other nations have retained the capacity to construct diesel submarines.

Russia's Admiralteiskiye Verfi shipyard has laid down the keel of a Project 636.3 diesel-powered submarine (Kilo class), intended for the Black Sea Fleet, ITAR-Tass reported Friday.

The NATO designation for the class is "Kilo."

Admiralteiskiye Verfi's Director General Vladimir Alekhsandrov told journalists that the new Project 636 vessel has a low noise signature and a highly automated propulsion system married to significant missile and torpedo armaments. The Project 636, crewed by 52 submariners, has an underwater speed of 20 knots, a cruising range at a conservative deployment of 400 miles with the ability to patrol for 45 days.

Specialists at the Rubin design bureau introduced modifications to a number of systems and equipment to adjust the vessel for operating in the Black Sea's unique conditions. Russian Navy chief Adm. Vladimir Vysotskii said the Russian Black Sea Fleet would eventually be equipped with three Project 636.3 diesel-electric submarines.

Admiralteiskiye Verfi is the direct descendant of a shipyard founded in St. Petersburg in 1704 by Czar Peter the Great. Since then it has constructed more than 2,500 warships, submarines, merchantmen and research vessels.

Besides domestic consumption, Russia's armaments export agency Rosoboronekhsport believes Project 636 has great export potential. In a June news release Rosoboronekhsport noted, "Russia's export potential in this market sector is very high thanks to Project 636 and Amur-1650 class submarines equipped with the Club-S integrated missile systems." The Project 636 Kilo-class submarine has been specifically designed for anti-shipping and anti-submarine operations in relatively shallow waters, where the longer endurance of nuclear-powered boats is a less significant factor.

Rosoboronekhsport has already built Kilo-class submarines for India, China and Iran and projects sales of up to 40 fourth-generation diesel-electric submarines to foreign customers. In April Admiralteiskiye Verfi confirmed that it will build six Kilo-class diesel-electric submarines for Vietnam in a deal estimated to be worth $1.8 billion.

Naval equipment now constitutes about 10 percent of Rosoboronekhsport's export portfolio, now estimated to be about $30 billion annually, second only to U.S. weaponry exports. At the International Naval Show-2009 in St. Petersburg Rosoboronekhsport delegation head Oleg Azizov stated, "By 2010, the share of naval equipment in Russia's arms exports will reach 15 percent, and by 2011 it will total 20 percent."


 

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U.S. Navy Plans to Expand its Submarine Testing Range to Include The Entire Pacific Northwest Coast

CNN, 16 August 2010

GREENBANK, Wash. - Underwater is usually a quiet place, but when the U.S. Navy is doing submarine security exercises, the calm can be shattered by blasts of high-intensity sonar. Marine experts say sonar affects dolphins and whales, along with other sea life - and can stun and even kill them. Whale-watchers along the Pacific Northwest coast monitor the sonar as well as whales' behavior.

Howard Garrett, co-founder of the Orca Network, says major incidents are rare, but in the Northwest, there is concern about the Navy's plans to expand the training areas.

"The proposed expansion of these exercise areas actually goes all the way down the coast to northern California, so it includes all of Oregon and Washington coastline, out in some places, 300 miles."

The public comment period for the proposed expansion of sonar testing is underway. Garrett says the Navy has been open to dialogue, although not much has changed since his group and others have challenged the use of sonar.

"They have a very limited repertoire of responses. It amounts to pretty much stationing sailors onboard with binoculars to look around to see if there are any whales that are obvious, and a few flyovers before they do these exercises."

The Navy says sonar is the best way to detect quiet, diesel-powered enemy submarines. Garrett hopes the discussion will expand, to include the reasons for its use in the first place.

"Their trump card is national defense. To look at an actual solution to that, you need to go beyond the issue of sonars and exercises - and look at international relations, and diplomacy."

The National Marine Fisheries Service allows some whale and dolphin deaths as part of sonar testing and training. The investigative website www.DCBureau.org reports that the Navy spends millions of dollars a year on marine mammal research, and most of its studies say sonar has minimal effects on whales. Studies funded by other sources disagree.


Tales from the Cold War

By Jennifer McDermott, The Day, Aug 14, 2010

Groton - Thirty years ago, Thomas Fargo and Dmitry Zubkov traveled in some of the same waters on ballistic-missile submarines tasked with similar Cold War missions.

"I wouldn't talk specifics," a smiling Fargo said Friday, "but if you look at the Soviet Union and the United States and draw range arcs, you can figure out where you have to be, to be in range."

Fargo was referring to the range of the nuclear missiles that the submarine he was assigned to, the USS George Washington Carver (SSBN 656), carried on board. Early versions had a range of about 1,500 nautical miles, with later replacement missiles extending the range by up to 1,000 additional nautical miles.

Zubkov also had a set of nuclear missiles aboard the submarine he commanded, the Soviet Navy's K-475, Delta-I type.

These two submarine officers were on opposite sides during the Cold War, but they met at a reunion of the Carver's crew this week in Groton to share sea stories from that era.

A retired captain, Zubkov said he was positive he had never met Fargo before - even under the ocean's surface.

"Never," he said. "I am sure we were undetected and I wasn't tracked. I know it for sure."

The Carver served as a deterrent force, as did Zubkov's submarine. Political leaders on both sides knew that if they were the first to strike, one of their adversary's ballistic-missile submarines was close enough to hit back.

"We have no doubt to push button and all missiles in several seconds could be near to the United States territory," Zubkov said in broken English.

"You had these weapons available - in a heartbeat," said Fargo, snapping his fingers.

But neither submarine was ever given that order - something both men are thankful for today.

"It's the last thing anyone in the world wanted to happen," Fargo said. "But the essence of deterrence is knowing that the capability is real and present and ready."

Fargo made five patrols on the Carver from 1979 to 1982 as the engineer. He went on to command the USS Salt Lake City (SSN 716) and later the U.S. Pacific Fleet and the U.S. Pacific Command before retiring as an admiral in 2005.

Zubkov commanded the K-475 from 1972 to 1980 and retired from the Navy in 1992 with 17 submarine patrols to his credit. He said his eight years in command during the Cold War were the best years of his life, since it was a time to "realize yourself as a man."

A common opinion here, he said, is that the United States won the Cold War.

"We commanding officers in Russia say we didn't lose it," Zubkov said. "It would be shameful to me to think we lost the Cold War. The Cold War at any moment could finish in a hot war. That would be a disaster for all mankind."

Zubkov is right in most respects, Fargo said, since one of the principal goals was to ensure that the conflict did not escalate into a nuclear confrontation.

"And it didn't," he said. "I'm sure his comments reflect the pride and professionalism they view in their operations. But I do believe the strength of our military during that period of time, as represented foremost by the Submarine Force, and the ability to operate in the Atlantic and the Pacific, was one of the key factors in the fall of the Berlin Wall and the essential demise of the Soviet Union."

Both men said they had the utmost respect for the submariners on the other side.

"They are professionals, as we are," Zubkov said.

"We knew if we didn't perform at our best, they might have the upper hand," Fargo said, adding that both groups believed "very properly that they were performing a mission that was absolutely essential to the security of their nation."

Fargo said he would love to talk about his past experiences with Soviet submarines.

"But I'm not going to," he said with a laugh.

He did say that after the hostilities ended, he went with his boss to meet with the commander of Russia's Northern Fleet. The commander's assistant, a submariner, asked Fargo which submarine he had led.

"Salt Lake City," Fargo said then.

The Russian submariner replied, "I knew we had met before."


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