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Issue date: 9-6-2010

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u9-10-2010  USSVI OFFICIAL BUSINESS: Flash Traffic - #2010-023

Date: 9/10/2010
To: Distribution List

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FLASH-01: Memorial Service for John Crouse set
Submitted by: T Michael Bircumshaw on 9/10/2010
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All submariners are invited to attend a memorial service for John Crouse, late curator of St Marys Submarine Museum, will be held at Noon, Friday the 17th of Sept at Our Lady Star of the Sea, 106 E Dillingham, St Marys GA, to be followed by a celebration of John's life at the St Marys Submarine Museum.

John qualified on the USS Flasher (SSN-613) in 1973 and was a MMCM(SS) when he left the Navy.

John had requested no flowers, and would like any donations be made to the Museum.  John also requested that the attire for the service be shorts and loud Hawaiian shirts with leis.

u9-7-2010  Congratulations in order for Bremerton Base Members who earned national awards

Shipmates,

It is a pleasure to say "Well Done" to John Clear of Olympic Peninsula Base, and Fred Borgmann, Bremerton Base & National Office, who were awarded the ROBERT LINK "NATL CDR COMMENDATION" AWARDS.
All of us in Western District 4 congratulate you both.
Fraternally,
John Mansfield
WD4 Commander
253 202 6433 cell
253 922 0334 fax
360 569 0507 home

 

u9-6-2010  FLASH-01: USSVI 2010 Election Results
Submitted by: Pat Householder IPNC on 9/4/2010
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National Commander
T Michael Bircumshaw

Senior Vice Commander
Jon Jaques

Junior Vice Commander
Al Singleman

Secretary
Tom Conlon

Treasurer
John Markiewicz

NE Region
Paul Orstad

SE Region
Bill Andrea

Central Region
Wayne Standerfer

Western Region
Jim Dunn

Proposed Amendments all passed

2013 Convention will be held in Rochester, MN.  Starting in 2014, the meetings will be held in the even numbered years.
 

u9-2-2010 Active Duty Supporter to Retire
Please thank the Bremerton Subvets for the opportunities I have been given to participate in the different community events with you.  Thank you for your organization's support during our "A" school graduations at TTF as well.  As a gratitude of my appreciation, I would like to take this opportunity to invite members of your subvets chapter to my upcoming retirement.  I have attached an electronic copy of my invitation.  Please feel free to pass the word along.

Date:  Friday, Oct 1, 2010
Time:  1300
Location:  Keyport Naval Undersea Museum auditorium

THANKS,
ETC(SS) Dillard
315-2702
 

u9-2-2010 OCTOBER DEADLINE - BREMERTON BASE BOOSTERS for 2010

This Base Booster program is a way to recognize our members that donate money to the base operating fund. We will publish the names of contributors as a way to acknowledge the financial support of many of our members. The listing will run for one year from January to December and start fresh each January.  The deadline for donations to be included in the Nov/Dec issue of the Puget Soundings newsletter is 15 October.

 

u9-1-2010 Bremerton Base Asks Members Help to Maintain its Financial Foundation

As most members comprehend, the world is in recession and it also effects base operations as income from our traditional income sources have declined requiring us to cut spending on charity as well as base functions to maintain our financial base.  One of the "out of the box" programs we have started that was announced in a recent issue of Puget Soundings is a base booster program. (see below).  Of our 289 members, only 78 are dues paying, the rest are Holland Club or life members who no longer pays dues.  Another measure to keep our base solvent is an increase in 2011 annual base dues that will go from $10 to $20 (first increase in dues since base inception in 1981).  So we ask you to consider a donation to the base general fund which will be income tax deductible.  Make check out to USSVI Bremerton Base and send to PO Box 465, Silverdale, WA 98383-0465.  Thanks for your attention.

 

u8-31-2010 USSVI NJVC Shows His Stuff
Our own NSVC Jon Jaques was featured in a 6 1/2 minute news video giving a tour of his submarine collection in his office. 

Jon has a very impressive collection and it is definitely worth a look!

Well done, Jon!

Go to the link below...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vJ0EZdHGtE
 

u8-30-2010 Bremerton Base WWII/HC Member at Northwoods

 

Shipmates & Friends,
 
Within our Olympic Peninsula Base, USSVI we are proud to have member Ed Ferris BMC(SS) USN Ret..  Edie doesn't elaborate much when asked about his Silver Star and four Purple Hearts, nor the deeds of his war patrols on the USS Drum in WWII, his service in the Korean Conflict and Viet Nam, he is as most WWII vets are, quite a humble and also a very humorous fellow.
 
A couple of weeks ago Edie suffered a collapse while going to get his mail.  Although no apparent physical harm nor mental impairment is seen, he cannot regain his equilibrium and is currently in a physical rehab center here in Silverdale, WA.  His wife, Sylvia, cannot care for him at their home unless he can get his balance back so she commutes daily to stay with him.  I have visited him a couple of times bringing him "my choice" of a couple of diesel boat hardbacks which he goes through in a hurry.
 
He has his cell phone next to him in his room (360-271-3606) while staying at the Northwoods Lodge, 2321 Northwest Schold Place, Room #108, Silverdale, WA 98383-9504.  Please take a moment to give him a call or send him a card.  I know that he will be delighted and it all will help him keep his mind off of this, as yet, undiagnosed problem that he is experiencing...

Thank You,
 
John
 

John Clear EMC(SS) USN Ret.
Submarine Memorabilia
Olympic Peninsula Base USSVI Commander
180 Robin Lane
Port Ludlow, WA 98365

u8-20-2010  South Sound Base Welcomes Home Seattle Base Member Active Duty Shipmate MCC(SS) Dave Gordon from Afghanistan

Our September meeting on the 9th will be one you do not want to miss. Invitations will be sent to other subvet bases. Chief Dave Gordon (SS) has returned from his tour in the big sand box. He will be presenting a program of his year in Afghanistan. Also the meeting will be a celebration of South Sound Base 8th Anniversary. We will be having a dinner …. An ‚Anniversary & Welcome Home‛ spaghetti feed. More on the link below

http://www.ussvi.org/BaseNewsletters/SSB_Newsletter.pdf

(My wife and I are planning to attend.  If you desire, e-mail me and I will keep a head count to send to South Sound Base.)

u8-20-2010 Help Wanted - Committee members for a short term assignment on the Scholarship Program Review Committee Members will review current policies and make recommendations for ways to include a wider selection of applicants.  The term of service is expected to be from September to December.  Respond to Base Commander Dave Niemy.

David Niemy
Commander
USSVI Bremerton Base
ssbnswo@aol.com

 

u7-31-2010  USSVI Bremerton Base Takes on Deterrent Park Brick Marketing and Sales (Deterrent Park Link)

The submarine veterans of the USSVI Bremerton Base are responsible for the marketing and sale of the Deterrent Park bricks. All profits realized after the engraving and installing the bricks will go to support our efforts  “To perpetuate the memory of our shipmates who gave their lives in the pursuit of their duties while serving their country.”

To date, over 2100 bricks have be purchased, engraved and installed in the Woodrow Wilson’s full scale model missile deck.  About 3200 bricks are awaiting your purchase. Look here for a locator file (be patient, 1.6 MB file) and review those that have purchased bricks, those who have been recognized or memorialized on the engravings and the location of individual bricks.  Use “Find” function of your pdf reader to search out names, words etc.

As you will note, many have recognized or memorialized shipmates, family or those who have gone before to ensure our freedom as those on active duty are doing today.

 

Please take a look and consider a purchase order.    Click here for brick application form

 

u9-7-2010 USSVI OFFICIAL BUSINESS: SubVet News - #2010-036

 

Date: 9/6/2010
To: Distribution List

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NEWS-01: 2010 Awards presented at the Awards Banquet Dinner at the Convention
Submitted by: John Stanford on 9/6/2010
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JOE NEGRI "SHIPMATE OF THE YEAR" AWARD: 

GILBERT P. ‘ GIL ‘ SHADDOCK – SNUG HARBOR BASE
       
ROBERT LINK "NATL CDR COMMENDATION" AWARDS: 

JAMES IRWIN – ALBANY/SARATOGA BASE
THOMAS M. BOWSER – MOBILE BAY BASE
LANCE DEAN – LOCKWOOD  INTERNET BASE
LEONARD STEFANELLI – MARE ISLAND BASE
JOHN CLEAR – OLYMPIC PENINSULA BASE
JOHN DUDAS – USS GUDGEON BASE
FREDERICK W. ‘ FRED ‘ BORGMANN - BREMERTON BASE
ROBERT DROMERHAUSER – BUFFALO BASE

MERITORIOUS AWARD            

BASE - USS FLORIDA BASE
INDIVIDUAL – EDGAR T. BROOKS - USS GUDGEON BASE

DISTRICT COMMANDER OF THE YEAR AWARD

DICK KANNING  - TARHEEL BASE

BEN BASTURA AWARD            

CHARLES R. HINMAN - BOWFIN BASE

GOLDEN ANCHOR AWARD 
CLASS ONE -  RAZORBACK BASE
CLASS TWO - SEA DRAGON BASE
CLASS THREE – CENTRAL TEXAS BASE

SILVER ANCHOR AWARD

GLENN E. HARRIS – CAROLINA PIEDMONT BASE
ROBERT G. MEDEARIS – WEST TENNESSEE BASE
 
NEWSLETTER of the YEAR AWARDS

CLASS ONE (Large) NEWSLETTER of the YEAR

BOAT NOTES —Groton Base

First runner up
ALL CLEAR  -- Tarheel Base

Second runner up
UP SCOPE  --  Dallas Base

CLASS TWO (Medium) NEWSLETTER of the YEAR

SEA POACHER BASE – Sea Poacher Base

First runner up
THE STRAIGHT SKINNY – USS Chicago Base

Second runner up
THE FAST CRUISE – Cincinnati Base

CLASS THREE (Small) NEWSLETTER of the YEAR

THE DIVE LOG – Trieste Base  

First runner up
BLOW & GO – First Coast Base

Second runner up
DIVE-DIVE – South Florida Base

https://www.ussvi.org/Documents/Awards_Winners_Awards_Winners_2010_Awards.pdf
 

u8-31-2010 USSVI OFFICIAL BUSINESS: SubVet News - #2010-035

 

Date: 8/30/2010
To: Distribution List

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NEWS-01: Work Under Way To Restore USS Batfish in Muskogee, OK.
Submitted by: Pat Householder on 8/30/2010
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MUSKOGEE, OK -- A massive restoration project is under way in Muskogee on a true war hero.

The USS Batfish is a World War II submarine that's highly decorated with military honors, but her condition has highly deteriorated over the years.

A group of Active Duty and Reserve Chief Petty Officers of the United States Navy spent Saturday painting the USS Batfish black, restoring the submarine to her glory days of World War II.

Go to the link for the rest of the story and pictures...

http://www.news9.com/Global/story.asp?S=13060209

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NEWS-02: Wartime Vet Pension story link broken
Submitted by: Pat Householder on 8/30/2010
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The link on the Wartime Vet Pension story was non functional, so here is another that links a Q&A on the subject from the VA website.

This little-known veterans' benefit for long-term care expenses is available to wartime veterans and their spouses. But the benefit is being overlooked by thousands of families, industry observers say.

Go to the link...

http://www.vba.va.gov/bln/21/pension/vetpen.htm

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NEWS-03: A internet scam to be aware of...
Submitted by: Pat Householder on 8/30/2010
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Along with many internet users, several of our members have had their computers infected with a virus that takes over their address book and sends out the below email, or a variation of the same. 

It is usually headed with "Need your help...please"

"How are you doing ? I hope you are doing fine, I'm sorry that I didn't inform you about my traveling to England for a Seminar. I hate to ask you for this but I just have to anyway. I need a favor from you as soon as you receive this e-mail because I misplaced my wallet on my way back to the Airport where my money,and other valuable things were kept, I will like you to assist me with a  soft loan urgently. I will be needing the sum of $1,850 to sort-out of this mess and get myself back home.

I will appreciate whatever you can afford to help me with, I will pay you back as soon as I return,I'm counting on you on this,Kindly let me know if you can be of help so I can send you my details to use when sending the money through western union or moneygram.

Your reply will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you"

It is a scam, so don't get caught...  And... be sure to have antivirus protection on your PC that is up to date at all times.

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NEWS-04: Sad ending to the 'Torpedo found' story in Philly...
Submitted by: Pat Householder on 8/30/2010
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To some, the inert green and yellow torpedo shell found in Port Richmond Friday and later destroyed by police was a piece of metal that would have made a handsome cash reward for a lucky son-of-a-gun who could lug the object to the nearest junkyard.

But to Ron Reeves it conjured up fond memories of his time at the Naval Shipyard.

"Too bad, a piece of history was destroyed by those who are ignorant without trying to find out what it was," he said.

Reeves, of Oaklyn, N.J., contacted the Daily News to identify the hollow, 19.4-foot-long, half-ton cylinder that police destroyed last week as a U.S. Navy Mark-14 practice round, a standard World War II submarine-launched torpedo.

At the former Conrail yard at Richmond and Cumberland streets, pipefitters used the shell to aid in tasks such as weight testing or alignment, Reeves said.

When not in use, the object reminded Reeves, a sheet metal mechanic at the yard for nearly 23 years, of its historical significance, he said.

A similar hollow cylinder is in a memorial at the Independence Seaport Museum at Penn's Landing, he said.

The shipyard closed down in 1996, and all the metal, including the empty steel cylinder, was chucked, he said. Scrap sifters and cleaners would later rummage through the materials to find what could be sold.

The object, Reeves estimated, could be worth hundreds of thousands of dollars.

He said he was disappointed that former shipyard bosses did not step up to claim the object, and that no one researched the cylinder before destroying it.

"Somebody should have preserved it, but somebody probably put a torch to it. What a shame," he said.

Thanks to Michael White for the follow-up to this story.  He tried to retrieve it for use in a memorial, but was too late.

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NEWS-05: Submarine Museum in Murphreesboro, TN
Submitted by: Pat Householder on 8/30/2010
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Our own NSVC Jon Jaques was featured in a 6 1/2 minute news video giving a tour of his submarine collection in his office. 

Jon has a very impressive collection and it is definitely worth a look!

Well done, Jon!

Go to the link below...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vJ0EZdHGtE
 

u8-30-2010 USSVI OFFICIAL BUSINESS: SubVet News - #2010-034

 

Date: 8/30/2010
To: Distribution List

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NEWS-01: Escaping A Submarine
Submitted by: James A Fox on 8/30/2010
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NEW LONDON, Conn. (Ivanhoe Newswire) -- Escaping from a Navy jet is easy -- just pull the eject lever. But when you're in a submarine, more than 800 feet below the ocean's surface in frigid water, it makes escaping a lot more difficult. Now the Navy has a new way to train submariners how to escape, when they have no other way out.
 
See attached link.
http://www.ivanhoe.com/science/story/2010/08/749a.html

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NEWS-02: Future Navy Submarine to Stick With Nuclear Mission
Submitted by: James A Fox on 8/30/2010
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WASHINGTON -- The U.S. Navy will focus the mission of its future strategic submarine solely on nuclear deterrence, and -- at least initially -- the vessel will carry the same type of ballistic missile as fielded today, a senior officer said last month (see GSN, April 30).

 (Aug. 10) - The Ohio-class ballistic-missile submarine USS Florida, shown off the island of Crete in March. The United States plans to design its next generation of ballistic-missile submarines for nuclear deterrence missions, a high-level Navy official said last month (U.S. Navy photo).
Defense leaders had earlier said that new submarines in the fleet -- which are to begin replacing the service's 14 Ohio-class "SSBN" boats in 2029 -- could carry both nuclear- and conventionally armed missiles (see GSN, April 24, 2008 and Sept. 18, 2007).

However, in recent weeks, military leaders have significantly trimmed back their plans, citing both congressional concerns and financial constraints.
See attached Link.
http://www.globalsecuritynewswire.org/gsn/nw_20100810_2253.php

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NEWS-03: WWII Sub Vet, POW Receives Award
Submitted by: James A Fox on 8/30/2010
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Groton - Ernest "Ernie" Plantz of Gales Ferry, a submarine veteran held captive by the Japanese for more than three and a half years during World War II, received a congressional award on Aug. 2 in a ceremony at the SubVets Hall.

The award, presented by U.S. Rep. Joe Courtney, D-2nd District, was crafted from the same granite used to construct the National World War II Memorial in Washington, D.C.


See attached link.
http://www.google.com/hws/search?hl=en&client=gateway&q=WWII+Sub+Vet%2C+POW+Receives+Award&Submit=Go

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NEWS-04: Homefront America Donates Backpacks to Families of Submariners
By MC2 April Currie

Submitted by: James A Fox on 8/30/2010
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NAVAL BASE POINT LOMA, Calif. (Aug. 25, 2010) - Dave Miholic hands out school supplies to military family members as part of Homefront America's backpacks to military families program. More than 20 families from the region lined up to receive backpacks and school materials to equip their children for the start of the new year. Homefront America is a nonprofit organization that supports men and women in the uniformed services. (U.S. Navy Photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Petty Officer April Currie/Released)

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NEWS-05: 10 Years After Kursk Sinking, Questions Remain
Submitted by: James A Fox on 8/30/2010
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MOSCOW — A stone seagull with outspread wings hovers motionlessly over a black granite block at St. Petersburg’s Serafimovskoye Cemetery. It is a monument to the 118 Russian sailors who went down in the Barents Sea on the nuclear-powered submarine Kursk on August 12, 2000.
One of the names inscribed there is Sergei Dudko. His mother, Sofia, visits the cemetery as often as she can. Though 10 years have passed, she has still found no peace of mind because the people responsible for the greatest disaster in the Russian navy’s history have never been named.
"The loss of the Kursk was a direct consequence of the fleet command’s negligence," said Boris Kusnetsov, a lawyer who represented some of the sailors’ relatives.
"But when the question of legal culpability came up, there was a political decision not to arouse any attention."
See attached link.
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/international/europe/view/2010081110_years_after_kursk_sinking_ques

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NEWS-06: Memorial Service For Crew Of World War II Submarine U.S.S. Flier Might Bring Closure For Families
Submitted by: James A Fox on 8/30/2010
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MUSKEGON — Families who never got to bury their loved ones after a submarine hit a mine and sank in the Pacific in World War II will finally see a video of the sunken vessel in Muskegon this week.

Nelson Jacobson, a Grand Haven man whose father survived the sinking, hopes the experience will bring those families closure.

Footage of the U.S.S. Flier will be shown for the first and perhaps only time in the U.S. Friday as part of a memorial for its 86 crew members. Eight of the crew members, including Alvin Jacobson Jr. of Grand Haven, survived the sinking, but have since died.
See attached link.
http://www.mlive.com/news/muskegon/index.ssf/2010/08/memorial_service_for_crew_of_w.html

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NEWS-07: Naval Postgraduate School Pioneers "Seaweb" Undersea Sensor Networks
Submitted by: James A Fox on 8/30/2010
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The Naval Postgraduate School is on the cutting edge of through-water acoustic communications technology enabling distributed autonomous ocean sensors to operate as an underwater wireless wide-area network.

Through a decade of engineering experiments and sea trials in diverse maritime environments, NPS and its research partners have advanced the “Seaweb” system to a point where it now routinely demonstrates capability for maritime surveillance, anti-submarine warfare (ASW), oceanographic sampling, instrument remote-control, underwater navigation, and submarine communications at speed and depth.
See attached link.
http://www.nps.edu/About/News/NPS-Pioneers-Seaweb-Underwater-Sensor-Networks.html

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NEWS-08: Tales from the Cold War
Submitted by: James A Fox on 8/30/2010
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Groton - Thirty years ago, Thomas Fargo and Dmitry Zubkov traveled in some of the same waters on ballistic-missile submarines tasked with similar Cold War missions.
"I wouldn't talk specifics," a smiling Fargo said Friday, "but if you look at the Soviet Union and the United States and draw range arcs, you can figure out where you have to be, to be in range."

See attached link.
http://www.theday.com/article/20100814/NWS09/308149886/1018
 

u8-30-2010 USSVI OFFICIAL BUSINESS: SubVet News - #2010-033

 
Date: 8/30/2010
To: Distribution List

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NEWS-01: The Problem Petty Officer First Class Ethan Gurney
Submitted by: James A Fox on 8/16/2010
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Petty Officer First Class Ethan Gurney will retire from the Navy this fall, after 20 years of service. Critics of the military retirement system say that's too soon, creating long-term fiscal problems for the Defense Department (Stars and Stripes photo).

According to a Pentagon advisory board, Navy Petty Officer First Class Ethan Gurney represents what's wrong with the military retirement system.

http://formerspook.blogspot.com/2010/08/unsustainable.html

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NEWS-02: Extra American Submariners
Submitted by: T. Michael Bircumshaw on 8/16/2010
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Base Commanders,
First Come, First Serve..
Our printer ran over on the printing order for the 2010-3 edition and there are issues available for those of you who would care to do some local promotion.

You can pick up magazines at the convention or you can let our national storekeeper know and he will ship them to you.  A donation for the postage would be greatly appreciated, but it is your option.  We just want the magazines to go to good use..
Trust you are all well and that your Base has exceeded your expectations in this national election.
Hope to see you in Ft Mitchell..
Best,
Michael
T Michael Bircumshaw National Editor American Submariner 2005-2010

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NEWS-03: Convention agendas are up on the website. Please print your own copy to have for the meeting.
Submitted by: Alfred H Singleman Jr on 8/17/2010
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The USSVI Pre-ABM Agenda and the USSVI ABM Agenda
are up on the website. Click documents,then minutes and they are on the 1st page at the top.
Please print your own copy and bring it to the meeting.

The Cf Pre ABM Agenda is on the website under documents, CF Minutes. Its the 3rd item on the 1st page. Please print your own copy and bring it to the meeting.

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NEWS-04: Q&A About our Subvet Charitable Foundation
Submitted by: Pat Householder on 8/19/2010
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Frequently Asked Questions about Donations

Q.  Why are you asking me for a donation?

A:  The only way our (yours and mine) Subvet Charity can do good work for subvets is if you, me and our shipmates collectively support our program with donations.

Q.  Who is and what are the purposes of the United States Submarine Veterans Charitable Foundation (USSVCF)?
 
A:  The USSVCF is the charitable arm of the United States Submarine Veterans Inc (USSVI), a Section 501(c)(19)  fraternal veterans organization.  Donations support the various USSVCF programs, including Scholarship Awards, Submarine Memorials, Brotherhood, Submarine Library and Museum Submarines.

Q.  How much are USSVI members asked to contribute annually to the USSVCF?

A.  Our national goal is to ‘average’ $ 10.00 per member per year.  (That’s less than three cents per day per member.)  More is always appreciated, of course.

Q. What percentage of my donation goes to Sub Vet causes and what amount goes to administrative costs?

A:  We continuously strive to keep administrative and fundraising costs associated with the operation of the United States Submarine Veterans Charitable Foundation as low as possible. These expenses are currently less than 5%. This is far, FAR better than the expense ratio of virtually all other charitable organizations.

Q. Is the United States Submarine Veterans Charitable Foundation a legitimate charity?

A:  Yes, the United States Submarine Veterans Charitable Foundation is a nonprofit organization headquartered in Silverdale WA.  USSVCF's federal ID number for donations is: #95-4830806

Q. If I mail a check, to whom do I make it out and where do I send it?

A.  Checks should be made payable to the USSVCF and sent to:

United States Submarine Veterans Charitable Foundation
P.O. Box 3870
Silverdale WA  98383-3870

Q. My company offers a matching gift program. How do I use this with my donation to you?

A.  First, check with your human resources office to find out if your gift to the United States Submarine Veterans Charitable Foundation is eligible for their matching gift program. Complete their matching gift form and mail it to us at:

United States Submarine Veterans Charitable Foundation
P.O. Box 3870
Silverdale WA  98383-3870

Q. Can I make a donation in memory of a loved one that has passed away?

A.  Certainly! Write a note with the name of the person in whose memory you are donating, and we'll take care of the rest. Please provide us with the name and address of where we should send the card acknowledging your memorial donation.

Q. I wish to mention the United States Submarine Veterans Charitable Foundation in my will. How can I do this?

A.  Contact us at (877) 542-3483, and we will provide you with information you need.

Q. Do you give my name to other organizations so they can contact me too?

A.  We, you and I, are all part of our Subvet 'family' and we DO NOT share the names of our CF donors with other organizations.
 

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NEWS-05: Honoring Edward “Ed” Lang, PNC and past Scholarship chairman 

Submitted by: Paul Orstad on 8/19/2010
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This past winter I asked the Family of Edward “Ed” Lang, PNC and Scholarship Chairman for ten years prior to my taking over in 1993, if The Scholarship Committee could make a scholarship in his honor and memory.  They responded in favor but I told them the money would come for the shipmates who donate to the scholarship foundation and if they felt so they could also. 

Ed Lang was the shipmate who took PNC Jim Pages Idea by the horn after about three years of trying to get the scholarship program going and started it to grow.  Before he turned it over he had built up the fund to $1000.00 and was giving out four scholarships worth $250.00. 

My Son Scott received two scholarships one in 1991 and 1992.  He is now Communication Director at Stanford Hospital, Stanford, CT.

The following has been provided by his Son Edward P. Lang with the help of his family. 

Ed Enlisted at age 16, and severed during World War II in the Pacific Theatre as a Quartermaster, Korean War and a front runner in the Cold War. 

He was on the commissioning Crew of the Battleship USS Massachusetts, BB-59 as a Plank Owner and AS 3rd Division, May 12, 1942. 

There he went into the submarine service where he served on the USS Diablo and USS Angler in the Pacific and Asiatic Theatre.  He rose to the rank of Quartermaster First Class Petty Officer. 

Upon his discharge in 1952, he founded Al-Rite Woodworking.  Ed specialized in Carpentry, Cabinet making and Boar Yard ship's carpenter.  He also spent some time being as a high walking steel worker.  As a General Building Contractor, he focused on home builder and renovations. 
While working full time and supporting his family, he attended Boston State College evening Classes where he received a Bachelors and Masters degree in Education.  He also attended Mass. Institute of Technology.  He taught in the Boston Public School System for 32 yrs, retiring from Dorchester High as a Vocational Teacher, Guidance Advisor & Assistance Headmaster.

Ed was very active veteran with American Legion Nonantum Post #440, VFW Post #10334 and the US Submarine Veterans, Boston Base as a Life and Holland Club member. 

He was inducted in June 1998 in testimony of “Qualified in Submarines” for more than 50 years.  Ed was also a member of the “Realm of Golden Dragon” by crossing the 180th Meridian. 

He was also extremely proud & happy to design and implement the “National Scholarship Program” as the Scholarship Chairman for and to the dependents of our United States Submarine Veterans membership.

The scholarship Committee is proud to announce the “Edward “Ed” Lang Memorial Scholarship” for the high school group, in the annual amount of $1,250.00.

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NEWS-06: USS Seadragon: Under The Ice
Submitted by: Pat Householder on 8/20/2010
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August 21, 2010, marks the 50th anniversary of the USS Seadragon (SSN-584) completing the first submarine transit of the Northwest Passage.

See some rare and intimate footage shot by a crewmember, Lt. Paul Horn, aboard during this historic trip at NAVY TV (linked below)

(A nod of thanks to Don Smith of Southsound Base for sending me the notice.)

http://www.navytv.org/media.cfm?c=37&m=3536&s=37&

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NEWS-07: USS Razorback makes the TV news!
Submitted by: Pat Householder on 8/22/2010
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The story about Razorback aired on Thursday night, on the 10:00 p.m. news.

The video is over 3 minutes long, which is a very long story for a TV news program.

We would like to thank THV Channel 11 for taking the time to come down and visit us.

John Barr, Membership Chair of Razorback Base sent out the notice and Carl Schmidt, CRD, sent it to me.  Thanks, Shipmates, for sharing.

The direct link to the story is below.  Copy and paste.

http://www.todaysthv.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=113996

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NEWS-08: WWII Sub Skipper never lost a man
Submitted by: Pat Householder on 8/22/2010
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As highly decorated as retired Navy Capt. Eric L. Barr Jr. was during World War II, the submarine commander always said his greatest accomplishment was never losing a man.

The longtime San Antonian died Monday. He was 98.

Barr is ranked 17th of 465 WWII submarine skippers for the number of ships sunk.

Barr retired as a captain in 1947 and received two Navy Crosses, two Silver Stars, a Bronze Star and eight submarine combat awards, among many others.

Visit the links below for the full story of this remarkable skipper.

http://ussbluegill.org/EricBarr/Barr.Biography.PDF

Link to News Article below...

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/submarine_commander_never_lost_a_man_101228529.html?show

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NEWS-09: USSVI 2009 Tax Return now available for review
Submitted by: John Markiewicz on 8/24/2010
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USSVI is obligated to prepare and submit a IRS 990 Tax Return for organizations exempt from Income Tax, and to make this return available for public inspection.

This return is posted under the Documents Button, then click the Organization button.

Its name is IRS-990_For_2009.PDF.

The document is also linked below.

https://www.ussvi.org/Documents/Online_Organization_IRS-990_For_2009.pdf

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NEWS-10: The USSVI National Election is concluded
Submitted by: Pat Householder on 8/24/2010
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Thanks to the 3,161 members who voted in this important election.  Your vote in support of the candidates of your choice is appreciated.

The election was clean and mostly trouble free, although there were some technical glitches that needed to be fixed, and a few incompatibilities due to the vast array of internet browsers in the marketplace.

There were also some problems that arose due to a technical delay in getting American Submariner ballot issue 'on the street', which adversely impacted on the already set travel arrangement of the election master, and the closure of the voting site a day early, again due to the travel requirements of the elections master.

As National Commander, I take full responsibility for the problems that occured.  I sincerely regret that these issues developed and have taken steps to identify all the problem areas and find solutions for the next election cycle. 

All of those involved coped with the evolving circumstances as best we could with the limited alternatives available to us.

The election results were not impacted, however, as the election vote margins were of such size that any last minute voting would not have changed any of the outcomes.  Nonetheless, those few members denied an opportunity to vote on the 24th have every right to feel offended and disenfranchised.

As mentioned above, the Natl Secretary is composing a 'lessons learned' report on this election with recommendations so that the problem areas can be addressed prior to the next election cycle.

The election results will be announced at the Convention Annual Business Meeting in Cin'cy, Sept 4th.

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NEWS-11: Video - The Submariners
Submitted by: Pat Householder on 8/25/2010
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THE SUBMARINERS - Department of Defense 1967 - PIN 25126 -

THIS PROGRAM DEPICTS LIFE ABOARD THE NUCLEAR ATTACK SUBMARINE USS SHARK (SSN-591).

IT PROVIDES INFORMATION ABOUT THE MEN, THEIR REALISTIC TRAINING AND THE SPECIALIZED EQUIPMENT THEY USE.

CLICK ON THE LINK FOR THE VIDEO...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WyQsQi0Lyg

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NEWS-12: 2011 Dues Renewal Season Approaching!
Submitted by: T Michael Bircumshaw on 8/26/2010
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Shipmates,

It is time to 'dues' it. 

Talk to your base members who are “annual” members and ask them, politely of course, to get their dues in before the 31st of December.

No one likes chasing down shipmates, and shipmates never want to be bugged about it, but the hard truth is your organization needs the money if SubVets is to function both on a base and national level.

National Dues are only $20.00 per year, but remind them that they can get a 3 year deal for $55.00 and a five year deal for $90.00.

If you are one of the 4,346 annual members who need to renew their membership, please help out your Base Commander by paying your dues early. 

Don’t let your shipmates miss a single copy of the American Submariner.

Keep your Shipmates on board; they are hard to come by.  It is easier by far to keep them that it is to find new ones..

Let’s have a “Zero Loss” year...

Best,
Michael

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NEWS-13: New Leader For Sub Force
Submitted by: Pat Householder on 8/26/2010
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By Jennifer McDermott, The Day, 26 August 2010

President Barack Obama has nominated Navy Rear Adm. John M. Richardson to be the next commander of the Submarine Force.
 
Richardson also would be promoted to vice admiral. He is currently the director for Naval Forces Europe-Africa, Operations and Intelligence, and deputy commander for the Sixth Fleet.

Vice Adm. John J. Donnelly, a Groton native, is the current commander of the Submarine Force. He said during a July visit to Groton that he planned to retire in the fall, with 35 years of commissioned service.

In the meantime, Donnelly said, he would continue to "make the Submarine Force better" by overseeing current initiatives such as smoking cessation on submarines and integrating women onto submarine crews. He said he had done his part for the Submarine Force and he would turn it over to his relief "in the best possible shape." Richardson needs to be confirmed by the Senate.

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NEWS-14: Torpedo Found In Kensington PA
Submitted by: Pat Householder on 8/27/2010
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8/27/2010:  Torpedo Found In Kensington (PHILADELPHIA PA Area)

Police are investigating the discovery of a torpedo in Kensington early Friday morning.

Workers spotted a man dragging an inert torpedo towards the train tracks at Richmond and Cumberland Streets at about 8:30 a.m.

When they attempted to question the man, he dropped the 600-1000 pound object and fled the scene.

Also see
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20100827_Torpedo_found_in_Port_Richmond.html

Police believe the man was attempting to sell the torpedo for scrap.
http://llnw.image.cbslocal.com/26/2010/08/27/320x240/TorpedoKensington.JPG

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NEWS-15: National USSVI Email Address Problems
Submitted by: Pat Householder on 8/29/2010
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For unknown reasons, the EMAIL addresses for
NC@USSVI.ORG, NJVC@USSVI.ORG and office@ussvi.org were found not to have been functioning from 8/12 to 8/29.

This means none of the POC traffic was sent during that time, but it is all included in this broadcast.

If you have sent anything to the above addresses within that date range, they probably were not received, so please resend them. 

Sorry about this problem.  We just realized they were not functioning when we noticed a lack of emails and did some investigation. 

The system is properly working now, however.

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VET-01: You may be a wartime vet, eligible for a pension and not even realize it....
Submitted by: Pat Householder on 8/29/2010
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A little-known veterans' benefit for long-term care expenses is available to wartime veterans and their spouses. But the benefit is being overlooked by thousands of families, industry observers say.
 
The Special Pension for Veterans' Aid and Attendance pays up to $1,644 a month, $19,736 annually, toward assisted living, nursing homes or in-home care for veterans 65 and older who served at least 90 days including at least one day during wartime — stateside or overseas.

Congress defines the periods of war.  If your  Military Service includes at least 91 days including at least one within any of these time periods: Dec 7, 1941, thru Dec 31, 1946; June 27, 1950 thru Jan 31, 1955; August 5, 1964 thru May 7th 1975; and from August 2nd 1990 to date, you may qualify for this benefit, subject to certain asset and income limits.

Veterans and their spouses can receive up to $23,396 annually and spouses of deceased veterans, $12,681.

Follow the link for more information...

http://ezinearticles.com/?Little-Known-Veterans-Pension-That-Can-Earn-You-Up-to-$22,000-a-Year-Tax-F
 

uSoup Down: Fri, Sep 10, 1130, Family Pancake House, 3900 Kitsap Way, Bremerton

Letter for Requesting Gift Certificate from Restaurants

Check out this link for latest images of  events. http://www.ussvi.org/base/Bremerton.asp  Then Click on Meeting Photos

 

Don Bassler

Gertrude Check

Founder & Editor

 

Other News of Interest to Submariners


Company Charged With Selling Faulty Navy Sub Parts

By Bill Sizemore, Virginian-Pilot, September 9, 2010

A Pennsylvania subcontractor has been charged with defrauding the government by supplying critical metal components for submarines that did not meet Navy specifications.

The metal was intended for use in Virginia-class subs, which are built by Northrop Grumman's Newport News shipyard in partnership with Electric Boat of Groton, Conn.

According to papers filed Tuesday by federal prosecutors in Philadelphia, Bristol Alloys and its president, James R. Bullick, fraudulently certified that metals critical to the submarines' integrity had been heat-treated when they had not been.

The Fairless Hills, Pa., company is no longer in business, its attorney, Michael Diamondstein, said Wednesday.

Diamondstein said his client "has cooperated with the United States government in trying to help them locate any of the nonconforming pieces of steel. It's our understanding that at no point in time were members of the United States military in danger due to this."

Spokesmen for the Navy and the U.S. attorney's office in Philadelphia declined to say whether any of the disputed metal has been installed in submarines or whether there are safety implications for the subs and their crews.

A Northrop Grumman spokeswoman said the company is cooperating fully with the government but declined to comment further, citing the pending criminal case.

Bristol Alloys, a metal broker, was a third-tier subcontractor in a chain of companies contracted to build 14 subs for $22.7 billion. Bristol Alloys sold metals to Garvey Precision Machine of Willingboro, N.J., a subcontractor that manufactured parts for Northrop Grumman.

The fraud allegations involve such parts as snorkel hoist pipes, piston tailrods and tailrod bushings shipped between 2004 and 2008. Bristol Alloys is accused of submitting fraudulent heating test certifications indicating that the metals had been heat-treated when they had not been.

The Navy's nuclear-powered Virginia-class subs, first deployed in 2004, have had problems before.

In 2007 the Navy blamed piping weld problems on "inadequate processes" at the Newport News shipyard. Then came reports that an employee had falsified inspection records of as many as 10,000 welds on submarines and carriers.

Last year the Navy said it was investigating mechanical problems involving bolts in the subs' torpedo rooms.  

               


 

Russia Reloads Its Library

Strategy Page, 30 August 2010

In Britain, the Royal Navy revealed that its submarines were suddenly having numerous encounters with Russian SSNs (nuclear attack subs). The Chinese and American navies are not revealing anything about similar encounters, but it appears that the Russians are updating their sound libraries. These are used for the passive (no broadcasting) sensors that subs favor. These sonar receptors listen for sounds, and compare ones that might be ships or subs, with previously recorded sounds in the sub's electronic library. Russian sonar sound libraries have long been in need of updating. Every ship, sub or marine animal has a distinct sound. Some American sound libraries can identify individual whales (these large mammals make a lot of noise).

All this activity is happening because Russian subs haven't been getting out to sea much in the last two decades. The Russian Navy has not only shrunk since the end of the Cold War in 1991, but it has also become much less active. Until about two years ago, Russian subs rarely came out to play. On average, only ten of their nuclear subs went to sea, on a combat patrol, each year. Most of the boats going out were SSNs (attack subs), the minority were SSBNs (ballistic missile boats). There were more short range training missions, which often lasted a few days, or just a few hours. But the true measure of a fleet is the "combat patrol" or "deployment." In the U.S. Navy, most of these last from 2-6 months. In the last three years, U.S. nuclear subs have carried out ten times as many patrols as their Russian counterparts. These long patrols are the ones where you can take the time to stalk the subs of potential enemy fleets, and capture their sound signatures.

The peak year for Russian nuclear sub patrols was 1984, when there were 230. That number rapidly declined until, in 2002, there were none. Since the late 1990s, the Russian navy has been hustling to try and reverse this decline. But the navy budget, despite recent increases, is not large enough to build new ships to replace the current Cold War era fleet that is falling apart. The rapid decline of Russia's nuclear submarine fleet needed international help to safely decommission over a hundred obsolete or worn out nuclear subs. This effort has been going on for a decade, and was driven by the Russian threat to just sink their older nuclear subs in the Arctic ocean. That might work with conventional ships, but there was an international uproar over what would happen with all those nuclear reactors sitting on the ocean floor forever. Russia generously offered to accept donations to fund a dismantling program that included safe disposal (of the nuclear reactors).

The Russian admirals made their big mistake in the early 1990s, when the dismantling of the Soviet Union left the second largest fleet in the world with only a fraction of its Cold War budget. Rather than immediately retire ninety percent of those ships, Russia tried to keep many of them operational. This consumed most of the navy budget, and didn't work. There were too many ships, not enough sailors and not enough money for maintenance or training at sea. The mighty Soviet fleet is mostly scrap now, or rusting hulks tied up at crumbling, out-of-the way naval bases. Since the end of the Cold War in 1991, most of the ship building money has gone into new nuclear subs. Six Akulas have been completed in that time, but the first of a new generation of SSBNs, the Borei class was delayed by technical problems, a new ballistic missile that wouldn't work, and lack of money. The first Borei class boat, after many delays, is finally ready for service, and ended up costing over two billion dollars.

Currently, Russia only has 14 SSBN (nuclear ballistic missile sub) boats in service, and not all of them have a full load of missiles. Some lack full crews, or have key systems in need of repair. Russia has only eight modern, 7,000 ton, Akula SSNs (nuclear attack subs) in service (another is leased to India). These began building in the late 1980s and are roughly comparable to the American Los Angeles class. All of the earlier Russian SSNs are trash, and most have been decommissioned. There are also eight SSGN (nuclear subs carrying cruise missiles) and 20 diesel electric boats. There is a new class of SSGNs under construction, but progress, and promised funding increases, have been slow. It's the Akulas that are shadowing the Royal Navy subs.

Currently, the U.S. has seven of the new, 7,700 ton, Virginia class SSNs in service, three under construction and plans to eventually build 30. The mainstay of the American submarine force is still the 6,100 ton Los Angeles-class SSN. Sixty-two of these submarines were built, 44 of which remain in front-line service, making it probably the largest class of nuclear submarines that will ever be built. The Seawolf-class of nuclear attack submarines stopped at three from a planned class of twenty-nine. The 8,600 ton Seawolf was designed as a super-submarine, designed to fight the Soviet Navy at its height. Reportedly, it is quieter going 40 kilometers an hour, than the Los Angeles-class submarines are at pier side.

While Western nuclear subs can last for about thirty years, Russian models rarely get past twenty. That means two new SSN or SSGN has to be put into service each year to maintain a force of forty boats. Unless the sub construction budget get billions more dollars a year, that is not going to happen. Right now, the priority is on producing a new class of SSBNs (11 more Boreis are planned or under construction). These Boreis are critical, because they carry SLBM (Sea Launched Ballistic Missiles) that provide a critical (they are much harder to destroy in a first strike than land based missiles) portion of the nuclear deterrent. The rest of the Russian armed forces, like most of the navy, is in sad shape, and unable to resist a major invasion. Only the ICBMs and SLBMs guarantee the safety of the state. So the way things are going now, in a decade or two, Russia will end up with a force consisting of a dozen SSNs and a dozen SSBNs.

The current fleet of nuclear subs is tiny, and the Russians have realized that if they don't get these boats to sea more often, the crews will become less capable to getting the job done in wartime. Given the number of accidents their subs have had in the past decade, it was obvious that the training the crews were getting was not sufficient. That has changed. The Russians subs are at sea three or four times more frequently than in the past two decades. Still not up to Western standards, but no longer in a downward spiral either.


GAO Eyes Retirement Pay After 10 Years

By Rick Maze, Military Times, 31 August 2010

Eliminating retirement benefits for 20 years of service would hurt the military ? but allowing troops to earn reduced retirement benefits after 10 years of service, as long as they wait until age 65 to receive the pay, might give a boost to recruiting and retention, according to the Government Accountability Office.

The idea, which could increase the military’s retirement costs, comes at a time when Congress is looking for ways to cut federal entitlement programs.

An independent commission appointed to look at federal spend-ing is expected to report in December on cutting benefits, potentially including military benefits.

GAO’s input came in response to questions posed by Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., ranking Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee’s personnel panel, about whether retirement benefits would be a greater boon to recruiting and retention if people were vested in benefits earlier in their careers.

He asked whether promising retirement benefits after 10 years of service would be a good way to encourage people to serve in time of war beyond one or two enlistments. Under most discussions about 10-year retirement vesting, benefits earned after 10 years of service would be less than those earned after 20 years, because retired pay still would be based on a combination of years of service and rank.

GAO said it is hard to see the immediate recruiting and retention benefits of promising retired pay after 10 years because the ser-vices are not having recruiting and retention issues.

GAO said deferred compensation such as retired pay or health benefits for retirees is “a relatively inefficient way” to influence people; it would be less expensive to just offer immediate cash bonuses. That is the same argument the Pentagon has used to try to hold down the size of military pay raises.

There are reasons to keep full retirement vesting in return for 20 or more years of service, GAO said. The current system “is meant to create a strong incentive for military personnel who stay beyond eight to 10 years to complete 20 years and leave soon thereafter,” analysts said.

But changing the initial vesting point from 20 years to just 10 might make sense if the goal is to keep people in the military who otherwise would get out after five years, GAO said.


Russian Subs Stalk Trident In Echo Of Cold War

By Thomas Harding, London Daily Telegraph, August 28, 2010

RUSSIAN submarines are hunting down British Vanguard boats in a return to Cold War tactics not seen for 25 years, Navy chiefs have warned.

A specially upgraded Russian Akula class submarine has been caught trying to record the acoustic signature made by the Vanguard submarines that carry Trident nuclear missiles, according to senior Navy officers.

British submariners have also reported that they are experiencing the highest number of "contacts" with Russian submarines since 1987.

If the Russians are able to obtain a recording of the unique noise of the boat's propellers it would have serious implications for Britain's nuclear deterrent. Using its sophisticated sonar, the Akula would be able to track Vanguards and potentially sink them before they could launch their Trident D4 missiles.

The Daily Telegraph has learnt that, within the past six months, a Russian Akula entered the North Atlantic and attempted to track a Vanguard. The incident has remained secret until now.

It is understood that the Russians stood off Faslane, where the British nuclear force is based, and waited for a Tridentcarrying boat to come out for its three-month patrol to provide the Continuous At Sea Deterrent.

While patrolling in the North Atlantic, there are a limited number of places the Vanguard is permitted to go and it is thought that the Akula attempted to track it on several occasions.

Navy commanders are understood to have ordered a Trafalgar-class hunter-killer submarine to protect the Vanguard. A recording of the Akula was made by the Trafalgar submarine's sonar operators and has been played to The Daily Telegraph.

"The Russians have been playing games with us, the Americans and French in the North Atlantic," a senior Navy commander said.

"We have put a lot of resources into protecting Trident because we cannot afford by any stretch to let the Russians learn the acoustic profile of one of our bombers as that would compromise the deterrent."


China Hits Bottom, Plants Flag

By Colin Clark, DoD Buzz, 26 August 2010

The People’s Republic of China has joined an elect group of four countries that have taken men as deep as 3,500 meters below the surface of the ocean. And in keeping with Chinese claims to huge amounts of the ocean surface and its depths, the crew planted a flag on the bottom in the South China Sea, much as Russia recently did in Arctic waters.

The story was reported on Chinese TV news and by the official Xinhua news service, making it almost certain that the event had policy repercussions, in addition to the nicely nationalistic side of the submersible crew and the craft’s designer having done something physically and technically challenging.

The flag planting was done with a submersible, not a submarine. Subs are independent and can go pretty much wherever they like. Submersibles, which are usually designed to go deeper and possess grappling arms of some type, usually are deployed from a mother ship and possess limited range. The Chinese submersible, Jiaolong, executed 17 dives in the South China Sea from May 31 to July 18. The deepest dive took them to 3,759 meters.

The flag planting, “highlights (again!) that China has laid claim to the South China Sea,” said Dean Cheng, the top Chinese defense expert at the Heritage Foundation here in Washington.

Islands and reefs in the South China Sea are claimed by China, Taiwan, Vietnam, Malaysia and the Philippines. My personal favorite clump of islands is those known as the Spratlys, where people have died over tiny lumps of coral so small it’s impossible to build permanent structures on them. The Spratlys may lie atop oil and gas deposits and they describe rich fishing areas.

At the end of last month a Defense Ministry spokesman said “China has indisputable sovereignty” of the South China Sea, though he allowed that the PRC would allow ship and aircraft passage “from relevant countries” if they comply with China’s interpretation of international law.

Cheng pointed to the fact that the Jiaolong was manned, saying China’s ability to operate at such depths will have economic and military repercussions as they undertake operations such as deep sea oil drilling and labor to supplement Ch8inese research into oceanography, a key discipline for submarine operations.


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